The Spiritual Import of the Mahabharata and the Bhagavadgita -1.8. Swami Krishnananda
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17/11/2019
Chapter 1: The Plight of the Pandavas :- 8.
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Goodness does not always succeed in the earlier stages. Truth triumphs not always. In the Ramayana, Ravana appears at times to be more glorious than Rama. Valmiki describes eloquently the significance of Ravana, and many a time one could almost imagine that Ravana was Valmiki’s favourite. It looks as if Valmiki was writing from the side of Ravana.
The idea behind it is that the glory of the world sometimes can obliterate the sprinkling of the fire of the spirit inside in the early stages of sadhana. It is not true that the Absolute will manifest itself in us at once, though the little spark in us is a spark of the Absolute. Let us not forget that it is after all a spark, though it is of the Absolute. The magnitude of the universe is so large that the material within us, the magnitude of the spark, is incompatible with it.
Now, quality is important, and quantity is not unimportant. While we assess the value of a thing from the point of view of quality, we are doing the right thing, no doubt, but it is not true that quantity has no value at all. It has a value. For instance, one British pound may be qualitatively more than one Indian rupee; but a hundred thousand rupees may be greater than one pound, though the quality from the point of view of foreign exchange may place the pound in a superior category to the rupee. Likewise we may say that qualitatively the spirit in us is superior to the whole world; it is true. The little spark in us is far superior to the entire physical universe.
But, and it is a very important ‘but’, we should not forget that it is a spark, and it cannot, in its babyhood of innocence and credulity, face these terrible asuras of objects. When it makes the mistake of facing them prematurely, it faces the destiny of the Pandavas in the wilderness of the forest, as they were in the Aranyaparva. Well, what sufferings they had to undergo in the forest, we need not describe. The worst condition imaginable was the lot of the Pandavas. The great hero Yudhishthira wept—the man who would not weep easily. He asked the sage whom he met in the forest, “Vrihadasva, great Master, have you seen any more unfortunate being in this world than myself?”
Well, these words must have come from the mouth of Yudhishthira with a torrent of tears in his eyes. “Have you seen, great Master, a more unfortunate being than myself in this world?” To pacify the poor Yudhishthira the great sage said, “Yes, there was one who was also suffering. He was King Nala.” The great story of Nala and Damayanti is recounted in the Aranyaparva of the Mahabharata, but this is beside the issue.
The point at this moment is that even after a tentative degree of success in spiritual practice, we are not out of danger until and unless we are in a position to make alliance with the divine powers, not before that, and the Pandavas had no alliance with divine powers up to that time. They were various individuals working on the strength of their own arms, which was not enough before the might of this whole world.
This is a very interesting subject, relevant to spiritual practice, and will be pursued later on.
Chapter 1: The Plight of the Pandavas Ends here.
NEXT : Chapter-2. Challenges of the Spiritual Seeker;
To be continued ....
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NOTE : Recent media reports
1.Anna University to Teach Upanishadas and Gita to Engineering Students
Several political parties, academicians and students’ organisations have condemned the move by the university.
2.DMK chief MK Stalin slams 'mandatory' teaching of Hindu scriptures in Anna University, varsity denies move
Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (DMK) staged a protest against the alleged imposition of Sanskrit in Anna University and other issues.
3.Earlier, DMK President MK Stalin had condemned Anna University over its decision to include Bhagwad Gita in the curriculum. Seeking governor's intervention, Stalin had tweeted, "It is condemnable to attempt imposition of Sanskrit by making philosophy compulsory in the syllabus of Anna University's CEG campus."
3. People can’t dictate religion: Kamal Haasan slams inclusion of Gita in Anna University syllabus
After Stalin, now Kamal Haasan has raised concerns about the inclusion of Bhagavad Gita in the Anna varsity curriculum saying that one can't dictate religion.
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OPINION :
1.THIS UNIVERSE RESPECTS OUR BHARATIYA HOLY SCRIPTURES THAN ANY THING;
2. NATIONS ALL OVER THE WORLD INTRODUCED LEARNING OF UPANISHADS, SRIMAD BHAGAVAD GITA AND SANSKRIT; THESE SCRIPTURES ARE TRANSLATED INTO ALMOST ALL WORLD LANGUAGES; OUR SCRIPTURES ARE ACCEPTED, AND ACCEPTED BY THE UNIVERSE;
3. WONDER ARE THESE TAMIL PEOPLE NOT AWARE OF THIS UNIVERSAL TRUTH?
4. ARE THESE TAMIL POLITICS SEPARATE FROM THIS HOLY NATION?
5. WHY TAMILNADU PEOPLE NOT PREPARED REJECT THIS RUBBISH ANTI NATIONAL POLITICS OF SEPARATISTS?
6. EVR ATROCITIES AGAINST TAMILNADU BRAHMINS AND HIS ACCUSAL THEORY OF ANTI RAMAYANAM BY WAY OF HIS DRAMA KEEMAYANAM; NO ONE PROTESTED THEN; WHY? ARE THE PEOPLE NOT AWARE OF THE HOLINESS OF GREAT EPIC RAMAYANAM. THEN?
7. THE FUNNIEST PART OF THIS STORY THAT WHEN AP NAGARAJAN PRODUCED SAMPURNA RAMAYANAM WITH THEN SUPER STARS TAMIL PEOPLE MADE A HEAVY RUSH TO THEATRES? WHY THIS ATTITUDE? CINEMA IS DIVINE NOT RAMAYANAM IS IT SO?
8. PARENTS AND CHILDREN ARE DECISION MAKERS AND FREEDOM CHOOSE THE SPIRITUAL SUBJECTS IN EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS;
9. IF THE CENTRAL GOVERNMENT HAS DECIDED THIS, IT IS A FACT THAT THE PEOPLE OF BHARATHAM REQUESTED PM MODIJI THROUGH MAN KI BAAT AND OTHER CHANNELS BY WAY PEOPLE CONTACTS WITH PM AND TEAM INDIA.
10. TAMIL POLITICS HAS NO ROLE HERE, WHERE THE PEOPLE IS IN THE CENTRE-POINT, DIRECT WITH PM MODI JI LEAD TEAM INDIA, SO KEEP AWAY IT IS BHARATHAM.
11. DMK LIKE TAMIL POLITICAL PARTIES, PLAY ANTI HINDUS, ANTI NATIONAL POLITICS AND SPREAD VENOM OF HATRED TO GET MINORITY VOTE BANK, A FUTILE IDEA, WILL BE BROKEN SOON, FOOLS;
12. THIS FUNNY TRICK AIADMK WHO IS THE PARTNER TO BJP IN TAMILNADU POLITICS, DID NOT RAISED VOICE AGAINST THOSE WHO OPPOSED THE SPIRITUAL LEARNING WITH SANSKRIT, BEWARE THESE TYPES OF WOLVES.
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SUM : TO TAMIL NADU PEOPLE, TO UNDERSTAND :
"THE CHHANDOGYA UPANISHAD IS ONE OF THE MOST PROMINENT AMONG MAJOR GROUP OF PHILOSOPHICAL AND MYSTICAL TEXTS CONSTITUTING OF THE THREEFOLD FOUNDATION OF BHARATHAM'S SPIRITUAL LORE, THE TRIPOD OF BHARATHA SAMASKARAM, BEING CONSTITUTED OF THE 1.UPANISHADS, 2. BRAHMASUTRAS AND 3. THE SRIMAD BHAGAVAD GITA."
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FINAL WORDS : WHAT THE GREAT ACHARYA SAID :
#The interesting phenomenon of the delivery of the Bhagavadgita is that the most sacred thing that it is – a holy teaching connected with God and creation, something which you would like to hear in a sanctified spot such as a #temple or an #ashram, a #university or an #academy, a #school or a #college – is given in the worst of human conditions, #called battle.
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#WARNING
#Request Tamil nadu people :
Breaking India Forces, are very active in Tamil nadu, wake up, be cautious, Christian missionaries and Islamic Jihadis the two communal forces are patronized by all demonic political parties, the Aiadmk government and media is silent on this. both these communal groups misuse our Democracy, and Freedom, under the cover of minority status, hour has come to eliminate this combined evil, before the state become self destroyed; do not allow this, SAVE TAMILNADU.
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THE RECENT ITCHING TO URBAN NAXALS AND TAMIL POLITICS CLEVERLY SUPPORTED BY CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES AND EVANGELISTS WITH FOREIGN FUNDS AND ISLAMIC RADICALISM :
IS PM MODI JI + THIRUKURAL,
OUR BELOVED PM A TRUE NATION LOVING SON OF BHARATHAM, IN HIS SPEECHES, ALWAYS MENTION 130 CRORES OF MY PEOPLE OF BHARATHAM, THIS INCLUDES ALL,;
NOW PM MENTIONED THIRUKURAL ON SEVERAL INTERNATIONAL PLATFORMS, THIS TEXT BELONGS TO THE NATION, NOT TAMILS ALONE;
TAMIL POLITICAL ASYLUM TALKS NONSENSE, THIS DEMONIC BEHAVIOUR WITH THE SUPPORT OF CHRISTIAN AND ISLAMIC VOTE BANK POLITICS SOON DESTROY TAMIL NADU SOON;
STOP ABUSING SANATANA DHARMAM, BEWARE AND AWARE OF PRAKASHRAJ, KAMAL HASSAN AND VISHAL LIKE FOOLS WHO LOST THEIR IDENTITY AND PERISH SOON.
STOP THE NON SENSE VIDEOS FLOATED BY SEVERAL SELF APPOINTED FOOLS IN YOU TUBE SPREADING VENOM.
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17/11/2019
Chapter 1: The Plight of the Pandavas :- 8.
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Goodness does not always succeed in the earlier stages. Truth triumphs not always. In the Ramayana, Ravana appears at times to be more glorious than Rama. Valmiki describes eloquently the significance of Ravana, and many a time one could almost imagine that Ravana was Valmiki’s favourite. It looks as if Valmiki was writing from the side of Ravana.
The idea behind it is that the glory of the world sometimes can obliterate the sprinkling of the fire of the spirit inside in the early stages of sadhana. It is not true that the Absolute will manifest itself in us at once, though the little spark in us is a spark of the Absolute. Let us not forget that it is after all a spark, though it is of the Absolute. The magnitude of the universe is so large that the material within us, the magnitude of the spark, is incompatible with it.
Now, quality is important, and quantity is not unimportant. While we assess the value of a thing from the point of view of quality, we are doing the right thing, no doubt, but it is not true that quantity has no value at all. It has a value. For instance, one British pound may be qualitatively more than one Indian rupee; but a hundred thousand rupees may be greater than one pound, though the quality from the point of view of foreign exchange may place the pound in a superior category to the rupee. Likewise we may say that qualitatively the spirit in us is superior to the whole world; it is true. The little spark in us is far superior to the entire physical universe.
But, and it is a very important ‘but’, we should not forget that it is a spark, and it cannot, in its babyhood of innocence and credulity, face these terrible asuras of objects. When it makes the mistake of facing them prematurely, it faces the destiny of the Pandavas in the wilderness of the forest, as they were in the Aranyaparva. Well, what sufferings they had to undergo in the forest, we need not describe. The worst condition imaginable was the lot of the Pandavas. The great hero Yudhishthira wept—the man who would not weep easily. He asked the sage whom he met in the forest, “Vrihadasva, great Master, have you seen any more unfortunate being in this world than myself?”
Well, these words must have come from the mouth of Yudhishthira with a torrent of tears in his eyes. “Have you seen, great Master, a more unfortunate being than myself in this world?” To pacify the poor Yudhishthira the great sage said, “Yes, there was one who was also suffering. He was King Nala.” The great story of Nala and Damayanti is recounted in the Aranyaparva of the Mahabharata, but this is beside the issue.
The point at this moment is that even after a tentative degree of success in spiritual practice, we are not out of danger until and unless we are in a position to make alliance with the divine powers, not before that, and the Pandavas had no alliance with divine powers up to that time. They were various individuals working on the strength of their own arms, which was not enough before the might of this whole world.
This is a very interesting subject, relevant to spiritual practice, and will be pursued later on.
Chapter 1: The Plight of the Pandavas Ends here.
NEXT : Chapter-2. Challenges of the Spiritual Seeker;
To be continued ....
NOTE : Recent media reports
1.Anna University to Teach Upanishadas and Gita to Engineering Students
Several political parties, academicians and students’ organisations have condemned the move by the university.
2.DMK chief MK Stalin slams 'mandatory' teaching of Hindu scriptures in Anna University, varsity denies move
Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (DMK) staged a protest against the alleged imposition of Sanskrit in Anna University and other issues.
3.Earlier, DMK President MK Stalin had condemned Anna University over its decision to include Bhagwad Gita in the curriculum. Seeking governor's intervention, Stalin had tweeted, "It is condemnable to attempt imposition of Sanskrit by making philosophy compulsory in the syllabus of Anna University's CEG campus."
3. People can’t dictate religion: Kamal Haasan slams inclusion of Gita in Anna University syllabus
After Stalin, now Kamal Haasan has raised concerns about the inclusion of Bhagavad Gita in the Anna varsity curriculum saying that one can't dictate religion.
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OPINION :
1.THIS UNIVERSE RESPECTS OUR BHARATIYA HOLY SCRIPTURES THAN ANY THING;
2. NATIONS ALL OVER THE WORLD INTRODUCED LEARNING OF UPANISHADS, SRIMAD BHAGAVAD GITA AND SANSKRIT; THESE SCRIPTURES ARE TRANSLATED INTO ALMOST ALL WORLD LANGUAGES; OUR SCRIPTURES ARE ACCEPTED, AND ACCEPTED BY THE UNIVERSE;
3. WONDER ARE THESE TAMIL PEOPLE NOT AWARE OF THIS UNIVERSAL TRUTH?
4. ARE THESE TAMIL POLITICS SEPARATE FROM THIS HOLY NATION?
5. WHY TAMILNADU PEOPLE NOT PREPARED REJECT THIS RUBBISH ANTI NATIONAL POLITICS OF SEPARATISTS?
6. EVR ATROCITIES AGAINST TAMILNADU BRAHMINS AND HIS ACCUSAL THEORY OF ANTI RAMAYANAM BY WAY OF HIS DRAMA KEEMAYANAM; NO ONE PROTESTED THEN; WHY? ARE THE PEOPLE NOT AWARE OF THE HOLINESS OF GREAT EPIC RAMAYANAM. THEN?
7. THE FUNNIEST PART OF THIS STORY THAT WHEN AP NAGARAJAN PRODUCED SAMPURNA RAMAYANAM WITH THEN SUPER STARS TAMIL PEOPLE MADE A HEAVY RUSH TO THEATRES? WHY THIS ATTITUDE? CINEMA IS DIVINE NOT RAMAYANAM IS IT SO?
8. PARENTS AND CHILDREN ARE DECISION MAKERS AND FREEDOM CHOOSE THE SPIRITUAL SUBJECTS IN EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS;
9. IF THE CENTRAL GOVERNMENT HAS DECIDED THIS, IT IS A FACT THAT THE PEOPLE OF BHARATHAM REQUESTED PM MODIJI THROUGH MAN KI BAAT AND OTHER CHANNELS BY WAY PEOPLE CONTACTS WITH PM AND TEAM INDIA.
10. TAMIL POLITICS HAS NO ROLE HERE, WHERE THE PEOPLE IS IN THE CENTRE-POINT, DIRECT WITH PM MODI JI LEAD TEAM INDIA, SO KEEP AWAY IT IS BHARATHAM.
11. DMK LIKE TAMIL POLITICAL PARTIES, PLAY ANTI HINDUS, ANTI NATIONAL POLITICS AND SPREAD VENOM OF HATRED TO GET MINORITY VOTE BANK, A FUTILE IDEA, WILL BE BROKEN SOON, FOOLS;
12. THIS FUNNY TRICK AIADMK WHO IS THE PARTNER TO BJP IN TAMILNADU POLITICS, DID NOT RAISED VOICE AGAINST THOSE WHO OPPOSED THE SPIRITUAL LEARNING WITH SANSKRIT, BEWARE THESE TYPES OF WOLVES.
========================================================================
SUM : TO TAMIL NADU PEOPLE, TO UNDERSTAND :
"THE CHHANDOGYA UPANISHAD IS ONE OF THE MOST PROMINENT AMONG MAJOR GROUP OF PHILOSOPHICAL AND MYSTICAL TEXTS CONSTITUTING OF THE THREEFOLD FOUNDATION OF BHARATHAM'S SPIRITUAL LORE, THE TRIPOD OF BHARATHA SAMASKARAM, BEING CONSTITUTED OF THE 1.UPANISHADS, 2. BRAHMASUTRAS AND 3. THE SRIMAD BHAGAVAD GITA."
========================================================================
FINAL WORDS : WHAT THE GREAT ACHARYA SAID :
#The interesting phenomenon of the delivery of the Bhagavadgita is that the most sacred thing that it is – a holy teaching connected with God and creation, something which you would like to hear in a sanctified spot such as a #temple or an #ashram, a #university or an #academy, a #school or a #college – is given in the worst of human conditions, #called battle.
========================================================================
#WARNING
#Request Tamil nadu people :
Breaking India Forces, are very active in Tamil nadu, wake up, be cautious, Christian missionaries and Islamic Jihadis the two communal forces are patronized by all demonic political parties, the Aiadmk government and media is silent on this. both these communal groups misuse our Democracy, and Freedom, under the cover of minority status, hour has come to eliminate this combined evil, before the state become self destroyed; do not allow this, SAVE TAMILNADU.
========================================================================
THE RECENT ITCHING TO URBAN NAXALS AND TAMIL POLITICS CLEVERLY SUPPORTED BY CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES AND EVANGELISTS WITH FOREIGN FUNDS AND ISLAMIC RADICALISM :
IS PM MODI JI + THIRUKURAL,
OUR BELOVED PM A TRUE NATION LOVING SON OF BHARATHAM, IN HIS SPEECHES, ALWAYS MENTION 130 CRORES OF MY PEOPLE OF BHARATHAM, THIS INCLUDES ALL,;
NOW PM MENTIONED THIRUKURAL ON SEVERAL INTERNATIONAL PLATFORMS, THIS TEXT BELONGS TO THE NATION, NOT TAMILS ALONE;
TAMIL POLITICAL ASYLUM TALKS NONSENSE, THIS DEMONIC BEHAVIOUR WITH THE SUPPORT OF CHRISTIAN AND ISLAMIC VOTE BANK POLITICS SOON DESTROY TAMIL NADU SOON;
STOP ABUSING SANATANA DHARMAM, BEWARE AND AWARE OF PRAKASHRAJ, KAMAL HASSAN AND VISHAL LIKE FOOLS WHO LOST THEIR IDENTITY AND PERISH SOON.
STOP THE NON SENSE VIDEOS FLOATED BY SEVERAL SELF APPOINTED FOOLS IN YOU TUBE SPREADING VENOM.
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